8am on Christmas Day:
“Nee Naw Control, what’s the problem?”
“I’ve just passed a man on the road. He appears to have fallen out of his wheelchair and he’s got blood all over his face.”
“Are you with the patient now?”
“No, I can’t stop — I’m on my way to church and it’d make me late…”
December 25th, 2005 at 5:55 pm
Is this really true? It sounds just too, well, appalling to be real. Great blog, by the way.
Rob
December 25th, 2005 at 7:49 pm
Oh dear. “Christmas Christian”… lovely…
December 25th, 2005 at 8:23 pm
Unfortunately, I have see too many people like that…
December 25th, 2005 at 8:31 pm
Rob — everything on this blog is true, despite a recent review describing it as “a spoof of the ambulance service”…
December 25th, 2005 at 9:59 pm
I can vouch for it all being true. Unfortunately its a regular occurance - get a call to someone apparently unconscious in the street. More often than not, added to the bottom of the screen will be “caller not remaining on scene”
December 25th, 2005 at 10:26 pm
Would someone like to explain the concept of an irony bypass to your caller?
At least when I called about an unconscious person (i.e. most likely passed out drunk) I had the decency to remain at the scene.
Thanks for your hard work!
December 25th, 2005 at 11:30 pm
im shore the church going public would understand his lateness, if he told them. as it the christan thing to do.
I bet he has not told anyone he did not bother stopping.
December 25th, 2005 at 11:37 pm
I received a call to the EMAS control room yesterday from a lady whose father had collapsed during a church service (he was the organist(). She was really worried about disturbing the church service, as they had just carried on regardless. I thought the congregation could at least have stopped and prayed for him or something!
December 26th, 2005 at 3:59 pm
Don’t believe in God myself, but if there is one, people like that will be rather surprised when St Peter points them towards the down escalator…….
December 26th, 2005 at 5:19 pm
I’ve spent ages trying to think of how to word a comment. But I can’t. I’m left speechless.
December 27th, 2005 at 6:58 am
Darley and Batson conducted an experiment in 1974 at the Princeton Theological Seminary that mirrors what you’ve described in your post: the subjects (seminary students) were told they needed to walk to a different building to give a taped sermon about The Good Samaritan parable (supposedly to be used in a study on effective communication). Some were told they were running late, others were not. A person feigning obvious physical distress was positioned along the route to the building. Though these subjects were seminary students about to sermonize about The Good Samaritan, 90% of those who were told they were late either walked around or stepped over the person and continued on their way, and 27% of those who were not late did the same.
December 27th, 2005 at 9:36 am
what Snoop said…
December 27th, 2005 at 9:48 am
I remember reading about that one actually… I think they also found that the subject of the talk made no difference — when they got them to talk about fish reproduction or something equally unrelated the results were exactly the same.
Would be interesting to have a go at the experience with different groups of religious people and see if the hardcore church goers were any kinder than the atheists…
December 27th, 2005 at 4:46 pm
I wish I could be surprised to be honest.
I’ve been kicked by a very “posh” gentleman for kneeling down treating an elderly female who had suffered a TIA/CVA type of event since I was delaying him getting to his train and there was a queue to get past…
There are exceptions however. One collpased elderly male, cause unknown that I was treating while out shopping waiting for the ambulance service when over toddles an elderly female in her 80s, with her cane and her 10 year old grandson and says “I have told my grandson to call the ambulance for you, you tell him what to say. I would help but I cant kneel down any more with my arthritis….”
And to finish a terrible true story from my days in the world of retail….
Back in the dark ol’ days when I was working for a major food retailer begining with T..
as First Aiders we treated an elderly female who was a known epileptic who had a fit and badly fractured her skull (a lot of blood… brain matter on the dressing…) and another snob demanded to go down the closed aisle and get… Jelly Babies… when she was politely told she couldnt… someone went to thrown some at her, complete with all the various body fluids on their gloved hands and she replied “No not those ones, the ones next to them don’t be so stupid!”
The Store Manager just managed to stop the Fresh Foods Manageress from knocking her on her back….
December 27th, 2005 at 10:39 pm
I’d like to exclaim shock and deep sorrow that this would happen, but the really sad thing is that I just can’t find it in myself to lie. I’d hate to have to live a life where my presence elsewhere was so important or my friends/colleagues were so inconsiderate that I couldn’t spare ten minutes to help another person in need.
December 28th, 2005 at 12:50 am
And the oh so vocal “Christians” (Not the real ones who don’t make a fuss, but just live it well) wonder why everyone seems to hate them. They think themselves martyrs, while they make a mockery of good people everywhere. 2000 years on, and they still don’t get it. Crying shame.
December 28th, 2005 at 12:55 am
What Jules said.
December 28th, 2005 at 1:23 am
Ditto the down escalator! >:(
December 28th, 2005 at 5:04 am
It’s amazing how many people don’t stop, even if they don’t have an excuse. Just recently I recieved a call (I’m a dispatcher) of a car upside down in the ditch, and we took at least 5-6 calls on it before there was anyone who stopped to check if there was anyone in there, or if they were okay, and it wasn’t a very busy road. But this is completely normal, it’s odd to even get someone that has stopped. Apparently being a good samaritain stops at calling 911 (or 999 over there).
December 28th, 2005 at 5:07 am
My husband fell off a truck at a building site and injured his back about two months ago. While he was lying there on the ground in pain and gasping for breath, a bloke (who had seen the whole thing) came over and said, “Jeez, you alright mate? Want some help to sit up?” After sitting my husband up, he just walked off and LEFT HIM SITTING THERE, without so much as a backward glance!!! Unbelievable! Eventually my husband was able to drag himself to the truck, then hail a brickies’ labourer to let out the handbrake, and drive himself, one-handed, to the Doctor, who was luckily only about 2k away. He’ll be back at work in a couple of weeks, but no thanks to the guy who walked off and left him.
December 28th, 2005 at 12:49 pm
I”m not surprised at any of these stories, unfortunately. As well as experiencing these people at work, a couple of years ago I fell down the stairs on a bus and badly sprained my ankle. I couldn’t get up but everyone just stood gawking, then a man came over. I thought he was going to see if I was ok but he just wanted me off the bus so it could me off — he pulled me to my feet and “helped” me the to door, leaving me sitting in the middle of the road! Charming. Lucky that it was only my ankle that was injured.
December 28th, 2005 at 1:11 pm
Unfortunately I am sure it is not uncommon.
From my side, after working no-stop from 23 to 26: a 38 man that died from Leishmania the 25 after two days of suffering, a homeless founded alone LOC, the 24, in the street that collapsed and die two hours later in ER even after I tried EVERYTHING. It seems that In Xtsmas I got useless
Anyway, Happy New Year from Spain
December 28th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
As someone who has relatives who are the ‘loud complaining’ types and as someone who is the ‘quiet, gets on with it’ type (though am a gobby cow actually) I totally think that people have lost the whole point of doing as you would be done by etc.
A woman my team is caring for had a stillbirth the other day, just before Christmas. Told certain family member, as I was upset about it. Not even a glimmer of concern, a moment of ’so what’ flickered across the face, then back to the usual constant mickeytaking… don’t get how people can’t care about stuff like that.
December 28th, 2005 at 11:06 pm
The other side of people driving by things and calling 999 is that it’s a waste of resources, as by the time the ambulance arrives, there can be no-one there.
I took a call from a man in a car who had driven past a female leaning over a wall with her head stuck in the hedge above it. When I asked the man why he thought she needed an ambulance, he just replied that it didn’t look right. I asked him if he was with her, and he said he wasn’t, and he had driven past. Needless to say, by the time the ambulance pulled up a few minutes later, there was no female with her head in the hedge. We obviously called the man back, and asked if he could give us any more information on the “patient”, but he couldn’t, as (he kept reminding us) he had only driven past and wasn’t going back. When we told him there was no-one there, and asked was he sure she had required an ambulance, he very rudely said that he would sleep better that night knowing that she was ok, and hung up the phone.
On a busy day, what a waste of a resource. I’m guessing this guy wouldn’t have stopped if he’d seen any of the above either!
December 28th, 2005 at 11:08 pm
Hurrah for mentalist god-botherers.
I had a vaguely related experience at Durham Cathedral on Xmas eve. Scuse the relatively shameless plug but I can’t be bothering with typing the whole thing out.
Direct link: http://drcrawley.blogspot.com/2005/12/two-possibly-three-things.html
Happy new year in a few days everyone. (I’ll be working, but still)
December 29th, 2005 at 7:20 am
When i crashed my motorbike due to slippery surface on the highway. Alot of people just drove right by.
Its a cruel world.
December 30th, 2005 at 1:24 pm
On a completely different subject…
I’ve noticed that in the UK, the St. John Ambulances get a bit of stick from the general public - and are considered to be somewhat rubbish… what is the Nee Naw’s point of view and when you arrange for ambulances to be dispatched do you know whether they’re the usual LAS or St. John’s??
I’m guessing the St. John’s get called out for the minor emergencies and that they leave the catastrophic emergencies to the big wig LAS.
It seems a bit of a shame that the St. John’s get the piss taken out of them - especially given that they’re volunteers - perhaps it’s thought that they volunteer because they’re not ‘good enough’ to be paid???
This isn’t my personal point of view by the way! I was a pre/early-teen St. Johner overseas and are just wondering what your opinion is on the matter.
Thanks!
December 30th, 2005 at 1:40 pm
We use St John ambulances sometimes — usually they take the lowest priority calls and doctor’s calls. I guess that’s coz they’re taking the “overflow” that we can’t deal with, so we take the Cat As and they get whatever’s left. I’m a member of SJA myself, although I don’t do ambulance work, just first aiding, and I think they do get the piss taken out of them a bit, although sometimes it is justified — you get some really strange people in the organisation and whenever there’s an accident they swarm round the patient like vultures, fighting everyone else off. They’re good at what they do though, and a SJA ambulance person is qualified to the same level as an LAS technician, so they shouldn’t be seen as “rubbish”.
December 30th, 2005 at 2:15 pm
Thanks Mark!!! - btw, have TAS reappeared?? Or are they still on the run?
December 31st, 2005 at 1:47 am
As a member of SJA before I joined the LAS, I used to think that the ambulance aid 2 qualification was the same level as the IHCD technician. That thought was dispelled within the first week in training school.
SJA ambulance personnel are trained to a high standard, but have no where near the background knowledge and patient assessment skills that the IHCD qualification demands.
Having said that, there are members of SJA that I would rather have treat me if I was ill that some LAS staff….
December 31st, 2005 at 2:54 pm
What a bad way to protray Christianity!
Why do people did think this blog is not true?
Wish you you the best Mark, for the New Year, hope you’ve got some time off.
The Driving Instructor
January 1st, 2006 at 1:53 pm
A very brief article in the Guardian touching on un-Christianlike behaviour:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/britain/article/0,,1674777,00.html
January 1st, 2006 at 3:08 pm
Britblog Roundup # 46
Yes indeed hangover sufferers! Here it is, your New Year’s Britblog Roundup. For those of you who had a dificult night I shall type this slowly and quietly. As you know you can make nominations for next week’s extravaganza by
January 1st, 2006 at 11:52 pm
Been there, seen it, t-shirt shrank. The day I came off my bike and collided with a rather solid wall the “gentleman” in the car behind me drove straight past. Fortunatly the lovely lady in the following car stopped to check that I was ok and a very nice young man walked me home. I make a point of not “crossing over to the other side of the street” and I’m not even a Christian.
January 2nd, 2006 at 1:41 am
A few years ago, my late wife and had just left the flat one evening in the pouring rain, turned a corner and found an old guy passed out in the gutter on a steep hill (so the water running down the gutter was cascading all over him) with people stepping over him to get on the bus, as if he was a piece of rubbish. I couldn’t believe it.
I checked him over; he was very drunk and he managed stagger to his feet so I could help him out the rain and into a shop doorway while she called an ambulance; someone said to her, ‘he’s only a drunk’ (to which she replied, ‘he’s also in a bad way and he’s old enough to be my father’).
January 4th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
This is the most depressing story I’ve heard in a while…I think the caller has a nasty surprise coming if (s)he thinks getting to church on time is the way to get through the Pearly Gates.
January 5th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
I imagine that people are worried about either being co-opted as a witness if the injury is a result of a criminal offence, or being sued by the person they are “helping” if they are unsuitably qualified and do something inappropriate.
I once watched a young lady fall off her scooter in the rain. It wasn’t a particulary bad accident, but she received some impressive gravel rash to her legs (tights aren’t particularly good abrasion protection). It seemed to me the first response of the “good samaritans” who rushed to her aid was not to attend to her rather battered legs, but was to try and remove her crash helmet even though it was fastened and she was shouting she was ok. I hate to imagine what might have been the result had she been unconcious with a neck or spine injury.
January 14th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
It’s funny what other people consider to be an appropriate response to an injured stranger. I remember calling an ambulance about a man who had collapsed on the street three blocks away from the hospital I was working at as a junior doctor. I answered all the standard questions (although the dispatcher allowed me to leapfrog the proforma a little after I gave the guy’s GCS as part of my reply to the initial airway/breathing question) and was dumbfounded when I was asked: “Are you able to stay with this man until the ambulance arrives?”
I thought it a bizarre question - OF COURSE I wasn’t going to walk off and leave this guy unconscious in the middle of the footpath, what kind of person did the dispatcher THINK I was? - but now I see why the question gets asked. Even if the caller is a doctor, I guess you can’t assume that their natural response will be to remain with the patient until the ambulance arrives. Strange world we live in.
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